Interviewer: And what did you find? Let me just go back. What did you find satisfying about your job in administration? And what did you find not so satisfying for you?

Interviewee: I found very satisfying feeling like I was contributing to a larger cause. And I loved the relationships that I was forging with physicians and I loved the fact that we were goal-oriented and we were attempting to achieve programs and specific things within the role. What I did not love was the bureaucratic infighting, the politics. We had a lot of town and gown politics. Our hospital was a community hospital that had been acquired by an academic medical center. So there was a lot of what we called town and gown politics. You know, the university snobbery, the community doctor saying these folks in the university don’t know the first thing about how to really deliver clinical practice, good clinical care to patients. So there was that sort of rivalry and a lot of politics, a lot of political jostling. So I found it very interesting, but it was not my passion.

Interviewer: And…